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Automatically update browser

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 19:17
by nylithic
Hello,

Is it possible to update the actual feed list in the browser to display new feeds when they come in without refreshing or clicking on all articles and fresh articles?

Thanks

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 19:41
by idoxlr8

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 20:20
by nylithic
I have a daemon running and it updates the feeds. My question is is it possible to have the new feed items automatically appear on my feed list without clicking any links. Sort of like an ajaxy thing. Right now it updates and shows the number, but i have to click on the appropriate feed to actually see the new items or click on all articles or fresh articles. I just want to stay on all articles and have new items appear automatically.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 20:47
by fox
No, headlines will not refresh automatically.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 01:25
by jchristi
nylithic, ttrss doesn't support that but as you said it should be possible to develop via ajax. I'm sure someone will probably implement it at some point so...patience :D

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 26 Sep 2013, 13:35
by ArchCarrier
I came here to ask the same question; has there been any work on this issue? It's a little strange that the number of unread feeds in the page title and the list of feeds get updated, but you have to manually click 'All articles' to actually see the new headlines.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 26 Sep 2013, 14:06
by fox
Is it really that hard to look two posts above?

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 26 Sep 2013, 14:58
by ArchCarrier
I actually referred to the post right before mine. I was thinking of a plugin that might have been coded in the months between our posts.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 26 Sep 2013, 17:34
by sleeper_service
ArchCarrier wrote:I actually referred to the post right before mine. I was thinking of a plugin that might have been coded in the months between our posts.


oh, woe is you, having to click something...

write back when your clicking finger falls off.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 26 Sep 2013, 18:15
by fox
Main problem here is that this behaviour is going to be bloody annoying. Oh wait I was reading something when the new article came in, poof it's gone.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 03:11
by roshambo
That wouldn't be a problem if it added to the list instead of refreshed. There is an auto refresh userscript but it comes with the critical annoyance fox talks about.

EDIT: Or well trying this now which might append, http://userscripts.org/topics/129135

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 09:54
by fox
roshambo wrote:That wouldn't be a problem if it added to the list instead of refreshed.


Headlines are sorted newest to oldest. Here you are, happily reading some shitty articles, half way down the buffer when suddenly new headline appears. Where should it be added?

1. To the bottom, it breaks the timeline consistency, 20 people come frothing at the mouth for you on the forums
2. To the top, you never even see it, it gets marked down as read automatically, people come frothing at the mouth whining where are their headlines rawr
3. Somewhere else

It's a fucking bad idea. Stop asking for it.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 10:13
by roshambo
We've already discussed this and while I still agree sorting by new could mess up the order but could work quite well when sorting by oldest. There's already situations where the order gets messed up because of varying update times and adding new articles at the end would just be another one.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 10:16
by fox
We've already discussed this and while I still agree sorting by new could mess up the order but could work quite well when sorting by oldest.


Yes, let's all this shit in there because of this one mode which is not even the default.

There's already situations where the order gets messed up because of varying update times and adding new articles at the end would just be another one.


This is entirely different and only happens for broken feeds, you propose fucking over the timeline arbitrarily because you are too lazy to press f r. Stop it already.

Re: Automatically update browser

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 12:08
by hrk
fox wrote:1. To the bottom, it breaks the timeline consistency, 20 people come frothing at the mouth for you on the forums

"MY TIMELINE!"
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fox wrote:2. To the top, you never even see it, it gets marked down as read automatically, people come frothing at the mouth whining where are their headlines rawr


"WHERE ARE MY HEADLINES RAWR!"
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fox wrote:3. Somewhere else


"I'm waiting for you to declare where, so then I can rawr at you..."
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I'm in the "oldest first"-side of the fence here, but I don't mind clicking again on the entry on the left if I see the number hasn't decreased to 0 after I f-q it, or I finish browing feeds.

e: the "add to the top if newest-first" is even more broken, as an idea, since I guess doing a f-q when reaching the bottom would automagically mark as read articles I never saw on the feed. I'd really rawr at fox on the forums. I switched from Eudora to something else when I noticed it ate one of my messages (who knows how much messages it downloaded and never showed me...).